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Sharon Adley
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Posted: Sun Sep 30th, 2012 01:19 pm
I contacted Redmond about how they mine their Redmond Rock equine salt.  It is done mechanically, i.e. chipped off the deposits, then broken into appropriate size for sale.  This is the same company that produces Real Salt for people.

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Posted: Fri Oct 5th, 2012 04:33 pm
I bought 85lbs of salt from these Canadian guys:

http://www.naturescargo.ca/himalayan.html

half of human grade loose Celtic sea salt and half loose Himalayan salt that they label 'Bath Salts' because they havent gone through it with a fine tooth comb to pick out little bits of debris... it looked really clean to me for the horses. There was no shipping costs and I had it in 3 days.

I put a Redmond Rock block in the pen of horses that dont get individually handled and fed each day.

I have had my horses on this unrefined salt for 4 months now... I have noticed that the post chewing has gone down to nothing.
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Posted: Fri Sep 27th, 2013 01:10 am
Hi Pauline and Dr. Deb,

I've been reading a lot on this forum about minerals and am trying to follow your suggestions on magnesium supplementation and salt.
I went to my local market and found Celtic Sea Salt for $17.00 for 8oz. I looked online on the Selina Naturally site and a 22lbs. bag is $193.00 (not including shipping). This is unfortunately expensive.
I bought a different sea salt, Pacific Sea Salt from New Zealand and was wondering what your thoughts would be on this. The analysis mentions Calcium 0.11% and Magnesium 0.06%, Sodium Cl. 99.4%, Sulphate 0.30%, Iron 10ppm, Copper 3ppm.

I know it's not ideal, because the calcium is higher then the magnesium, while I'm supplementing magnesium. But the calcium seemed very low, compared to other salts.

Would love your thoughts on this,

Thank you for your help,
Martine

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Posted: Fri Sep 27th, 2013 10:48 am
Hi Martine

The expensive product from Selina is human grade salt. Their pet grade is $29.95 for 22lbs. http://www.selinanaturally.com/agricultural-pet-salt-celtic-sea-salt-brand-22-lbs/

Thanks for pointing this out; I've now corrected the link on the salt page of my website http://www.gravelproofhoof.org

Pauline
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Posted: Fri Sep 27th, 2013 12:54 pm
I get the redmond salt at a local feed mill for $7 a 50 pound bag here in MI
martinegroeneveld@mac.com
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Posted: Tue Oct 1st, 2013 04:01 am
Hi Pauline,

Thank you for your reply. I've ordered the pet grade Celtic Salt.

I'm giving my mare the MagRestore magnesium supplement as well. Could the magnesium and the salt be given at the same time in the feed?

Thank you,
Martine

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Posted: Wed Oct 2nd, 2013 05:42 am
Certainly Martine, I feed magnesium and salt together in the same feed.
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Posted: Wed Oct 2nd, 2013 02:08 pm
Hello Pauline and thank you for all the valuable research and information on sea salt and magnesium. I have a magnesium question -- I hope it's okay to ask it in the sea salt thread! The magnesium topic seems to be divided up among several threads. I'd like to try giving my horse magnesium but your suggested method of providing it (dissolving the flakes in water and adding to her feed a little more each day) is a little labor-intensive for me to ask my barn to do. Is it possible to provide the magnesium in another way? maybe mixing the flakes directly into her feed? or is it too unpalatable this way? If the dissolved way is the only/best way, I guess I'll just bite the bullet and figure out a way to do it, but I thought it was worth asking for a Plan B. Thank you for your reply. --Juliet
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Posted: Wed Oct 2nd, 2013 05:41 pm
Pauline is the expert, but we go ahead and mix up 2 liters of MaCl at a time.  It stays in suspension very well, and giving your barn a container of the liquid and a measuring vial might not be that hard for them to do when they feed.
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Posted: Wed Oct 2nd, 2013 05:52 pm
yeah, I agree. It's really the monitoring the manure each day and upping the dose periodically that seems like a lot to ask, but now that I'm thinking it through more carefully, I'd have to be the one to do that regardless of who's administering the dose. thanks for weighing in! -- Juliet
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Posted: Wed Oct 2nd, 2013 06:32 pm
We have our horses at home, so we are mucking out the stables every morning.  But now that I can claim I am monitering the manure, it sounds a lot better! :)

 

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Posted: Wed Oct 2nd, 2013 06:41 pm
Ha! you can call yourself an equine sanitation engineer while you're at it!
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Posted: Tue Oct 29th, 2013 03:32 pm
I have ordered the celtic sea salt for my mare. She doesn't touch her redmond salt at all and I also supplement with magnesium.

But a question keeps coming up for me.
When a horse is in need of salt, and has access to free salt in the form of salt licks, will he not seek and lick the salt by himself? Just like when it's hot and we're sweating a lot, we love the taste of something salty, because we need it?

I understand the need for unrefined sea salt instead of a regular salt lick when you're supplementing with magnesium (to have salt with lower calcium). But in a case where magnesium is not an issue, should a horse be supplemented 2-4tbsp of salt even when it has access to free salt licks?

Is blood work a good test to measure salt levels?

Thank you for explaining,
Martine
Pauline Moore
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Posted: Mon Nov 4th, 2013 03:50 am
Martine

As with every other aspect of dietary management, let your horse tell you what he needs for the specific environment in which he lives. A horse that has strong functional feet, a glossy coat, is not excessively anxious, drinks and urinates normally, sweats freely in hot weather, is not over- or under-weight and has no other health problems - would appear to be obtaining everything he needs from his current diet, whatever it might be.

If pastures are not especially high in potassium, a block of rock salt may be sufficient to meet the need for sodium, provided each horse has individual access to the block, e.g. is not driven off by other horses. Blood tests will show the electrolyte status of the sample on the day it was taken, but may not be relevant for other days; potassium can spike in pasture grasses on cloudy days so fluctuating weather conditions can change need for sodium.

There is some thought that force-feeding sodium can be beneficial in certain circumstances, but I personally have not been able to replicate those results for horses in Australia.

Pauline
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Posted: Fri Nov 29th, 2013 03:37 pm
My horses love the redmond rock salt way better than the loose. Tractor Supply store runs out of them most of the time. I wonder why they prefer the rock?



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