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Posted: Sat Jun 23rd, 2012 07:44 pm |
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Dear People -- I'm putting in a request today to see if you-all would be as willing to help on this as you were a couple of years ago when we did the survey of "bone substance" with everyone getting involved and contributing measurements.
What is needed now are good photos of horses belonging to the "less common" breeds. I'm not talking necessarily about real rare breeds -- just not so much Quarter Horses, of which I have a gazillion examples that have already been sent in.
The photos need to show three views, if at all possible: side, front, and rear.
You can also shoot the back from the top -- it's more trouble, but you may find out some things by doing it. Remember that for this shot, it is absolutely crucial to get both sets of feet, front and back, absolutely square across -- otherwise it will make your horse's back or neck look crooked when it isn't. Obviously also somebody has to help the horse have its nose right in front of its breast too.
I get quite a few photos that are sent in that look like the person took no real trouble about it. These photos look to me like they might have been taken from a cell phone. I understand that cell phone cameras these days might be superior to my own lab camera; but it will really help if the photographer doesn't just "grab a snap" for these. The image must be in focus, and the light should come from BEHIND (not in front of!) the photographer. This will cause the photographer to cast a shadow forward; you'll either have to stand back a little farther, or else move somewhat, to keep your shadow from crossing onto the horse's body.
Please try for an uncluttered background. A hedge, a lawn, a distant forest of trees, or the side of a barn (no windows) work well.
Don't worry about having a handler in the shot. Your horse will look MUCH better if he's standing up nicely on his feet, and the handler will be far more able to get this done while you fiddle with the camera. What will happen to the handler is that he or she will get cropped right out of the picture....we do this 'Photoshop magic' on almost every shot that appears in Equus Magazine. Just be sure that the horse is standing at least a few inches away from the handler, so that there are no hands touching the horse's body.
Digital photos may be sent via EMail. PLEASE make sure that the filesize is not less than about 8 Megapixels, i.e. approximately 35 inches wide X 72 dpi or about 8 inches wide at 300 dpi. Photos can be even larger than this, up to the limit of what your browser will allow you to EMail.
Why I need these photos is for the upcoming "second phase" of the conformation series in Equus Magazine -- and for possible inclusion in a future textbook. Please understand that when you submit a photo, by the act of submission you are donating the photo to me, and the photo and all copyright rights thereafter belong to Dr. Deb Bennett, Ph.D./ Equine Studies Institute. What you will get in trade for that is the pleasure of knowing that your horse which appears in print, either in the magazine or in any future book, will be helping literally thousands of other people to make good choices when they select a horse to train or purchase.
Here are the breeds I particularly need:
-- Rocky Mountain Horse
-- American Saddlebred
-- "Saddle Horses" of all registries and types
-- Quarabs, i.e. Quarter Horse X Arabian, Arabian X Quarter Horse
-- Arabians
-- Half-Arabians, whether registered or not, any cross
-- National Show Horse
-- Iberian horses, all breeds and related breeds, i.e. any Andalusian or Lusitano or any Iberian native horse such as Sorraia
-- Azteca
-- Mustang, any registry or BLM adopted (or "wild" shots)
-- Paso Fino
-- Peruvian Paso
-- South American breeds, i.e. Criollo, Chilean, Mangalarga
-- Morgans
You may also submit a horse of ANY breed (even Quarter Horse!) if it has some "outstanding" conformation flaw, i.e. bench knees, pigeon toes, postlegged, calf-kneed, scoliotic.
I also LOVE to get "before" and "after" pictures of training success stories, and also "before" and "after" sequences showing, for example, a foal born windswept and then the vet came in there and did surgery or braced him or something, and then you show us the result several years later.
A huge THANK YOU ahead of time to anyone willing to contribute. If you only have photo prints, please write to say so and I will help you make arrangements so that we get the prints copied with no danger that your old photos might be damaged or lost (we are not asking you to donate irreplaceable prints).
Please direct all submissions or questions to: drdebphotos@equinestudies.org.
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LynnF
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Posted: Mon Jun 25th, 2012 04:31 pm |
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| I have an Arabian and a Quarab, so I will send you pictures of them. Would you be interested in pictures of my mules? One is out of a Thoroughbred, one from a Missouri Foxtrotter and one from a Welsh pony.
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DrDeb
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Posted: Mon Jun 25th, 2012 06:25 pm |
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| Yes, sure -- I forgot and left mules off the list!
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Posted: Tue Jun 26th, 2012 12:48 pm |
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| How about Norwegian Fjords?
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DrDeb
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Posted: Wed Jun 27th, 2012 12:26 am |
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| Yes, Fjords would be fine. So would Halflingers. And so would Icelandics, if somebody besides Adam Till on this list owns one. Thank you guys so much! -- Dr. Deb
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Posted: Thu Jun 28th, 2012 07:14 pm |
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| Are you interested in cross breeds? I have an Icelandic/Kentucky Mtn cross.
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DrDeb
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Posted: Thu Jun 28th, 2012 11:59 pm |
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| Yes, absolutely; what an unusual cross. Anybody got one of those new Belgian X American Saddlebreds? -- Dr. Deb
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Posted: Sun Jul 1st, 2012 12:15 pm |
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I have a question on composing the shots.
Front shot - horse's head looking directly ahead? Aim lens at chest?
Side shot - should the horse be "squared" or standing in an open legged position. Where do I point my lens at? Girth/barrel area?
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Erin
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Posted: Wed Jul 4th, 2012 09:51 pm |
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I don't know the exact breed that my mare is... I've been told: mustang, morgan, TB and even saddle breed.... would a picture still be useful?
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Posted: Thu Jul 5th, 2012 01:29 am |
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| Yes, ma'am, and greatly appreciated. We might be able to figure out what she is "on appearances." -- Dr. Deb
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Posted: Thu Jul 5th, 2012 06:45 pm |
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| Deb, It might be a good idea if posted some the shots the way you want them.
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DrDeb
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Posted: Fri Jul 6th, 2012 12:30 am |
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All a person has to do is look-see what we print in Equus Magazine. I get many offhand, un-useable shots: out of focus, backlit/glare, dangerous clutter, dark shadows cutting across the horse's body, ears cut off, feet cut off, etc. I can photoshop some things -- i.e. remove the guy holding the lead rope who has a cigar hanging out of his mouth and his fly open -- but I can't fix the above-listed things. I'm not OVERLY picky, I think....just use common sense. And anyway, if someone sends me photos and they're not useable for some reason, they'll get an EMail back thanking them for the effort and suggesting improvements.
But since you asked, see attached photo of Ollie as the "ideal" example. -- Dr. Deb
Attachment: Conformation Oliver How To Take Photo.jpg (Downloaded 734 times)
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Posted: Sat Jul 21st, 2012 02:19 am |
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| Any need for a Belgian/Thoroughbred cross?
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Posted: Sat Jul 21st, 2012 12:32 pm |
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| Yes, Marcia, certainly -- and thanks for the offer! Just send to the EMail address given in the first post above. Cheers -- Dr. Deb
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Posted: Fri Jul 27th, 2012 07:47 pm |
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Dr Deb,
I have 2 mustangs and 1 mustang/Missouri Foxtrotter cross. One of my mustangs is documented to come from a herd where American Saddlebreds were released many generations ago. I can get the three shots you want for sure but I am the only competant handler and photgrapher I know since I just moved to Southern AZ from Southern CA. I know not a single soul yet. They are all distinct looking and are all flawed. I would love to have the opportunity to learn how to improve them.
Annette Carter
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