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shauleen
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 Posted: Sun Jul 23rd, 2017 02:10 pm
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Hello all, I have a gelding who has recently been doing this in the last couple of months. He does it under saddle , on the lunge and in the paddock .Would like your thoughts on what could be causing this as I have heard quite a few theories and not sure what is true
I have had vet look, feet , saddle, teeth , body worker all look.
Would like to know what could be the cause if any or if I'm worried for nothing .
Thank you in advance.

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Shauleen, you have to tell us what "this" is. -- Dr. Deb

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 Posted: Mon Jul 24th, 2017 12:23 am
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Hello Dr Deb,
What I have read is that is air in the sheath going in and out . What I'm finding is that there can be many theories as to why? My concern is could it be tension in the back muscles and in the abdominals , how do I know for sure and what do I need to do or check to help find the cause?

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 Posted: Mon Jul 24th, 2017 04:39 am
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Shauleen, it's air in the sheath going in and out, like a kid making squeak noises with a spitty balloon that hasn't been tied off.

It's more likely to happen if the horse has:

(a) a dirty sheath that really, really does need to be cleaned;

(b) a bean under the foreskin;

(c) an edematous (swollen-looking) sheath.

Most of the time, the 'gelding squeak noise' or 'gelding honk' is totally benign and just a funny kind of side effect to his having been gelded -- because the scrotum is still there of course, like a balloon, except that in a gelding it has nothing in it (except air, that gets sucked in there when he moves his hind legs).

However, the three conditions I mentioned above can mean certain things, so,
next time your gelding extends his penis to pee, observe whether there are a lot of waxy flakes, or else pieces of black, tar-colored waxy globs or chunks adhering to the shaft. If so, and you have no experience cleaning a horse's sheath, then you call your vet and have him or her come over and instruct you. If you do already know how to clean a sheath and your horse is 'broke' to this, then be sure when you do it that you use no soap -- plain water only please.

If you opt to have the vet out, have him or her give the horse some I-V dope, which will make the horse sleepy enough so that he'll let his penis down. While he's in the dopey state, then ask the vet to examine the penis and sheath, and also check for a bean under the foreskin and if there's one there, then to remove that.

If your horse proves to have a bean, then while you're about doing all the rest of this with the vet, then also have an oral examination to see if he needs his teeth done. Horses with dental problems don't reduce their fodder to small particles; and when the gut tube is not full of small particles, the gut does not hold water as well as it should. The animal can then (especially in this very hot weather) become somewhat dehydrated or chronically dehydrated, and that's when formation/retention of a bean is most likely.

Beans are bad because once he has one, it will also hurt him to pee -- you can tell if there's a bean by observing the urine stream -- if it doesn't angle forward in the normal manner, but rather the glans of the penis seems to hook backwards or be bent downwards, and the urine stream is pinched off or goes backwards or somewhat to one side, then what's causing that is a bean. When it hurts the horse to pee then he'll be smart enough not to drink so he doesn't have to pee as often. Unfortunately that's very bad for him, dangerous even, at any time really but especially right now in the middle of summer. -- Dr. Deb


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 Posted: Mon Jul 24th, 2017 05:09 am
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Thank you Dr Deb for your reply . I have the vet coming next week for something else so will get him to check as I have never done this before and don't want to do the wrong thing.
When I was researching this , there are so many theories it was quite confusing and trying to work iout why had me quite concerned.

Will post after this is done .
Thank you again
Shauleen


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