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 Posted: Sat Mar 22nd, 2014 08:30 am
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Hi, Folks -- I'm working on Part III of an Equus Magazine mini-series on the history of the Arabian and Arabians in America, and I'm wondering if we have a few Arab enthusiasts who might be able to supply me with photos.

In the interests of completeness and fair coverage, I'd like to be able to include a variety of horses primarily, or at least partly, bred from all the major American bloodlines. I already have several Crabbet-bred horses; these are the majority. I also have a New Egyptian, i.e. Ansata Ibn Salima son, though if somebody has another one or something else from Judith Forbis that might be interesting.

What I'm really missing is anything related to the Kellogg program, and anything from the Hearst importation. Also, anything that would be considered "straight Davenport" or Davenport-related (I already have several Babson-related horses from *Fadl).

What I am looking for is not champions necessarily, but horses owned by ordinary people for their own pleasure. I need a photo, name and age of horse, and sire and dam's name.

Thanks people for any help you can give on this project! -- Dr. Deb

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 Posted: Sat Mar 22nd, 2014 11:06 am
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Is it ok to send pictures, or would you prefer to have them emailed to you? Some of my pals here locally are Davenport/ Sharp breeders.( Sharp means no Blunt bloodlines) not because Blunt bloodlines are necessarily bad, but rather because Blunt blood is in nearly every other bloodline too. For example I have a Quarab with Polish and CMK blood. Even his Polish side has Blunt.. Ditto the Spanish horses through Skowronek, and of course the,'New Eygyptian', horses through Nazeer who was 25% Blunt, and of course the cmks themselves. The thing is I think about the only breeding group without Blunt blood are the French racing horses. But I wouldn't be surprised if after more of the French horses become more familiar to us here in the states, we find out that they have Blunt/ Crabbet lines too.
Once again I'm not being critical of any breeding group, rather I've come to realize that all of the various gene pools, including the cradle country Asils have wonderful attributes to add to the mix. I wonder if there are now enough breeding groups strongly enough established that one could do rotating outcrosses from one group to another, say Crabbet, to Old Eygyptian, to Spanish, to Polish, to French, to Davenport, to cradle country Asils, to New Eygyptian, to CMKs etc. I bet you would get an extremely athletic horse, just saying
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Bruce Peek

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 Posted: Sat Mar 22nd, 2014 09:55 pm
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Bruce, yes, send pictures and pedigrees. Send them to:

office@equinestudies.org.

IN terms of pictures, they need to be .jpg's that are at least 35 inches wide at 72 dpi, or alternatively at least 6 inches wide at 300 dpi.

IN terms of pedigree -- sire's name, dam's name at least; and if neither horse is particularly well-known, then the grandparents too if possible.

I would be extremely grateful to get some Davenport/Sharp-bred horses, but your Quarab, if it has a known sire and dam, will also be useful. I would like to do an article on Quarabs and/or registered half-Arabs as well.

Thanks to you and to anyone who can help out with this. -- Dr. Deb

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 Posted: Sun Mar 23rd, 2014 12:45 pm
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Dr. Deb . Cool. Sidekick, my horse has a sire line to Witez 2, through Zee Mega Bucks, to Xenophon, Bolero to Witez. He also has lines to Pietuszock(sp) through Gay Apollo. Pietuszock has lines to one of the Kuhaylan Rodan mares Judy Wentworth sold to the Poles in the 30's. Further down his pedigree sidekick goes to Ferana, the spade bit bridle horse at Kellog who was Muniqi by strain from the Blunt mare Ferida( I think) On the quarter horse side his dam has 6 lines to Three Bars, and also lines to a ton of other Thoroughbreds, Blenheim, Man o War etc. I will try to get ahold of the Cravers they were the ones who really revived the Davenports. They should have a ton of info. Also I emailed Edouard AlDahda who has several Davenports as well as other Asils too, and asked that the Al Khamsa and Davenport people and Sharp breeders get ahold of you.
all for now
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Bruce Peek

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 Posted: Thu Mar 27th, 2014 10:51 pm
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I will send you a picture and links to pedigrees this evening. My Arab is out of Marwan al Shaqab, dam is mostly Polish bred (Bandos great-granddaughter).

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 Posted: Fri Mar 28th, 2014 02:09 am
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Are you looking for conformation photos or any type of photo?

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 Posted: Fri Mar 28th, 2014 07:34 am
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No, Saffire, it needs to be a conformation-type pose, i.e. taken from the side with the horse standing still, ideally without the horse's head being too much turned. And also, of course, I won't be able to run any photo that is blurry/out of focus. It helps also if the shot is taken outside of any building, and with the sun behind the photographer's back (just don't let your shadow get up onto the horse). Please employ a handler to hold the horse while you take the shot; don't just drop the leadrope, or try to shoot a "selfie"-type shot with you being both the handler and the photographer -- those always come out distorted. Take the time to help your horse look good! Thanks for any contribution you can make to this article -- I want to show the kind of Arabian horses that "ordinary" people enjoy owning. -- Dr. Deb

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 Posted: Sun Apr 6th, 2014 06:18 pm
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This is a straight Davenport stallion. Indie Star, by Mandarin CF out of Gbarh Asjah.
http://davenporthorses.org/pedigree/I/INDIE_STAR88a42.HTML

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